I just learned something new today. Have y'all heard of this concept?
"This principle states that individuals with dark personalities, such as high narcissistic traits, are inclined to become involved in certain kinds of ideologies and political activism. We argue that narcissistic individuals can be attracted...activism [which] may provide them with opportunities to obtain positive self-presentation (e.g., virtue signaling), gain status, dominate others, and engage in social conflicts to get their thrills."
Reminds me of certain virtue-signaling ex-royals! As well other very loud, annoying celebrities. Jameela jamil, anyone? BLM? It sounds like the secret sauce of this new wave of leftist fascism to me. We're seeing this everywhere right now. People using seemingly worthy causes to control and dominate others and to draw attention to themselves. "Fuel" as HG Tudor calls it.
What do we think of The Dark Ego Vehicle Principle? Can we turn the tide on this trend, or has social media created too big of a platform? I think we will have to vote with our actions and stop enabling them by getting off social media en masse.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 32 | July 21, 2023 2:25 AM |
You lost me with the psycho babble OP and the not-a-real-reference link to Springer.com, which has had more than 64 of its papers retracted.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 1 | July 20, 2023 9:40 PM |
Another article by the authors of that "academic" paper:
[quote] Involvement in LGBQ Activism is Related to Pathological Narcissistic Grandiosity and Virtue Signaling
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 2 | July 20, 2023 9:41 PM |
Hey look Defacto look at a “scholarly publication.”
I wonder if pullet snout will next investigate the hundreds of articles in legit journals about the origins and psychology of racism — a flag he spends all his time waving?
| by Anonymous | reply 3 | July 20, 2023 9:48 PM |
Oh. Okay. Lol I dunno I just heard about it online a few minutes ago and I wanted to put it up for debate. I'm not wedding to the idea. I for sure see this concept playing out on social media by certain narcissistic celebrities, where it is clear they don't give a FUCK about other people but only about their own plaudits and getting their asses kissed. They tend to be found to be hypocrites of a high order. It's not black or white, but there is something to it. Using a cause to just get attention for yourself.
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | July 20, 2023 9:50 PM |
For fuck’s sake. Isn’t there anything to DO in Pittsburgh, fuckface?
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | July 20, 2023 9:56 PM |
Horseshoe theory. The far left and far right are about equal.
If an old white lady throws a tantrum at Burger King because an employee, who is POC, is rude to her, they’ll put her on Twitter, post her home address, ruin her entire life and career, drive her to the brink of suicide, and into poverty. They’ll never bat an eye, because “she just some ol yt bitch”.
Feminine abuse is passive-aggressive & psychological. Masculine abuse is typically direct & physical.
A man will just punch or kill you. A woman will mentally abuse you for as long as it takes, maybe a decade or more, until you lose all hope and commit suicide, then she’ll show up at your funeral in hysterics and get everyone’s sympathy. But we gloss over everything the feminists do, so it’s okay.
I’m not advocating to go back to the 50s, as trolls will claim. But some moderation would be nice. We’re creating a system where certain demographics are infallible. Notice how the word “equality” has been dropped now, well that’s because those groups want to abuse power themselves. It’s really a massive delusion to think that all humans aren’t capable of abusing power. Creating true equality for all would mean dismantling the systems that allow power to be abused, not the ability to become the abuser yourself.
I’ll vote Democrat all day, but I’m not going to sit with the wool over my eyes and pretend they’re perfect.
| by Anonymous | reply 6 | July 20, 2023 10:04 PM |
R4 it’s Munchausen's adjacent
| by Anonymous | reply 7 | July 20, 2023 10:05 PM |
Good way to frame it, R7. I agree.
| by Anonymous | reply 8 | July 20, 2023 10:12 PM |
[quote]Creating true equality for all would mean dismantling the systems that allow power to be abused, not the ability to become the abuser yourself.
Brilliantly stated, R6.
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | July 20, 2023 10:14 PM |
Ive been saying this for years. So much of wokeism is leftist narcississm
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | July 20, 2023 10:17 PM |
R9 thanks OP. Now we just wait for the minions to come in and scream “troll”, while offering no retort.
| by Anonymous | reply 12 | July 20, 2023 10:17 PM |
R11, yes, I think it's the long awaited follow up to her 1983 bestseller, 'The Body Principal: an Exercise Program for Life,' not since Go Set a Watchman has a followup book been so eagerly anticipated.
| by Anonymous | reply 13 | July 20, 2023 10:24 PM |
The fact that they use "virtue signaling" should tell you this is just right-wing activism masquerading as research
| by Anonymous | reply 14 | July 20, 2023 10:35 PM |
R14 ok.
Virtue signaling is a real thing.
| by Anonymous | reply 15 | July 20, 2023 10:37 PM |
I'm a liberal and I have been known to use the phrase "virtue-signaling" when it's blatantly obvious that someone is virtue-signaling.
| by Anonymous | reply 16 | July 20, 2023 10:37 PM |
Yep. Using the term "virtue signaling" is an automatic "Fuck Off" from me.
What you call "virtue signaling" is just as prevalent amid right wing fucktarded white supremacists as it is among Leftists. Some would say that it's actually more prevalent among right wing fucktards.
| by Anonymous | reply 17 | July 20, 2023 10:39 PM |
People who virtue signal are the types that sweep pit bulls attacks under the rug, because it doesn’t go with their agenda.
| by Anonymous | reply 18 | July 20, 2023 10:40 PM |
I mean, I agree, R17. We aren't in opposition here. It is a useful term to call out holier-than-thou behaviors on both sides of the aisle, right or left. There you go - holier-than-thou. You like that better? It's the same thing.
| by Anonymous | reply 19 | July 20, 2023 10:44 PM |
What I "like" are well researched, professionally done papers that actually impart knowledge, not garbage fish wrappers like the OP posts.
The OP is clearly a dishonest piece of shit who posts bogus "papers" and theories that carry water for his fascist personal political agenda. This along with his entire right wing fascist agenda, are unwelcome on the DL.
We dislike you and your shoddy, sub-standard, white supremacist links. Go away.
| by Anonymous | reply 20 | July 20, 2023 10:52 PM |
R20 Lolololololzzzzzzzzzzzz
I know there are people out there who ARE right-wing, white supremicist pieces of shit. And I know it makes you feel powerless and furious and helpless and angry. But I'm not one of them. I'm just a dumbass who posted a thing and started a conversation without giving either the concept, or the actual paper, it too terribly much vetting or forethought, for better or for worse.
Tell me it's junk "science" and I'm an idiot, sure. But I'm none of the things you've ascribed to me. I've been bleeding blue my entire life, working with low-income families and children and fighting for the rights of the marginalized with my time, money and my votes.
There are some really bad actors who take causes celebre and pervert them for personal gain. You might call someone like that a narcissist. Other than that? Whatever, dude, I am not that invested in any of this other than I want people to be nice to each other. Then end.
| by Anonymous | reply 21 | July 20, 2023 10:58 PM |
[quote]I'm not wedding to the idea.
I do not even want to know where you are registered.
I assume it will be a location wedding.
| by Anonymous | reply 22 | July 20, 2023 11:07 PM |
Posting your every brain fart is a bad way to approach the DL, R21.
Use your head, check things out, understand that when you post things accusing all Leftists of "virtue signaling" and indulging in the "Dark Ego Principle" obvious bullshit like that is going to get you a DL beating.
If you enjoy that, great, knock yourself out. If you don't, as your protestations would indicate, then stop and think or do a little further reading before you fart some anti-LBGT, right-wing garbage out on the Datalounge. You're accountable.
| by Anonymous | reply 23 | July 20, 2023 11:09 PM |
[quote]Tell me it's junk "science" and I'm an idiot
It's junk "science" and you're an idiot.
Do you want the DL to spank and piss on you as well?
| by Anonymous | reply 24 | July 20, 2023 11:11 PM |
I will gladly participate in spanking the 'tard but I don't do piss play - eww.
| by Anonymous | reply 25 | July 20, 2023 11:16 PM |
Thank you you guys. I'm not hurt, I like being schooled, it's part of the growth journey that I assume we are all on. I was a dummy to post the thing without vetting it, or at least brooching the issue more skeptically.
In my only defense, I have been suffering from extreme insomnia so my normal discernment and forethought is probably on the fritz. I'm fucking fried today.
On the other hand, it's good to have discourse. This is out there. I was honestly asking DL "What do we think?" And I'm getting feedback and that is great. It helps me to become ever more of a critical thinker.
ps, C'mon R23, on what planet would this post, or the quote-unquote "scholarship" I linked, be considered LGBT? If anything, it could be construed as misogynistic. Or yeah, right-wing. Which is not a good look by any stretch, but I don't see the thesis as singling out our gay community one way or the other. I wouldn't have posted had I thought I was attacking my own self with the information.
The vehicle through which I heard of this theory, was in connection to Meghan Markle. She specifically, is a bandwagoneer and I was looking at the whole thing through that particular lens when I posted.
Love you all.
| by Anonymous | reply 26 | July 21, 2023 1:58 AM |
Check again, kid, it's anti-LGBT.
| by Anonymous | reply 28 | July 21, 2023 2:03 AM |
I'm too tired to go look at it, R28 but if that is true, then eeek! My bad, completely. Fuck. Epic fail.
Sorry you guys. I seriously was just going down a Meghan Markle rabbit hole today to distract myself from the pain of sleep deprivation and ended up at Dark Ego Vehicle.
That cunt ruins EVERYTHING.
I'm really embarrassed.
| by Anonymous | reply 29 | July 21, 2023 2:06 AM |
Gurl, go down the youtube Ibble Dibble rabbit hole. She does great stuff on Harry's wife. Things I did not know or understand before watching her videos. I recommend her "How broke are they" and various fashion videos (why does she always look terrible?)
It's a hoot.
| by Anonymous | reply 30 | July 21, 2023 2:09 AM |
I'm on it, R30! (Thank you, btw. That was a very generous and elegant save.)
Another channel that does hilarious, cunty MM commentary (but is admittedly super frau-ey) is Real Housewives Recaps. Sooooo bitchy and brutal. And entertaining.
Lady C is very right-wing -- that's where I zigged when I shoulda zagged earlier today.
| by Anonymous | reply 31 | July 21, 2023 2:18 AM |
I used to watch Lady C but her right wingyness lost me as a fan. It got to be too much.
| by Anonymous | reply 32 | July 21, 2023 2:25 AM |